1 00:00:13,410 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:18,730 --> 00:00:16,090 so in front of you right now is the 3 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:18,740 phylogeny the family tree of the animals 4 00:00:23,530 --> 00:00:21,470 it is the diversity of the nervous 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:23,540 system with the exception of perhaps 6 00:00:28,749 --> 00:00:26,770 porifera the sponges toward the top 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:28,759 despite this diversity the 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:30,890 overwhelmingly preferred model within 9 00:00:38,459 --> 00:00:34,970 the behavioral sciences is here the 10 00:00:41,709 --> 00:00:38,469 vertebrates which includes ourselves as 11 00:00:43,660 --> 00:00:41,719 the mind continues to diversify into 12 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:43,670 unimaginable forms in the world and 13 00:00:49,180 --> 00:00:46,640 perhaps the universe around us so if we 14 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:49,190 wish to understand the mind we should 15 00:00:53,230 --> 00:00:50,960 look beyond the vertebrate model to 16 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:53,240 other forms of thought entirely and for 17 00:00:59,260 --> 00:00:54,950 this reason I have chosen the octopus is 18 00:01:00,610 --> 00:00:59,270 my model organism it has been for over 19 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:00,620 five hundred million years that the 20 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:02,239 octopus has been involved in cognitive 21 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:03,920 complexity in parallel to that of 22 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:05,840 vertebrates but has done so through 23 00:01:10,899 --> 00:01:08,200 entirely divergent neural architecture 24 00:01:12,910 --> 00:01:10,909 most of the octopuses nervous system 25 00:01:16,570 --> 00:01:12,920 exists within its arms as a distributed 26 00:01:18,340 --> 00:01:16,580 network this allows it to offload a 27 00:01:21,130 --> 00:01:18,350 great deal of computation from its brain 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:21,140 into its arms and this allows it to 29 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:23,210 process massive amounts of information 30 00:01:29,620 --> 00:01:26,510 in parallel including the information 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:29,630 necessary to control the infinite 32 00:01:34,090 --> 00:01:32,210 degrees of freedom of its arms they 33 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:34,100 don't really have fixed joints like we 34 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:36,350 do as well as the massive amount of 35 00:01:41,410 --> 00:01:37,790 sensory information available from their 36 00:01:46,030 --> 00:01:41,420 suckers this is the morphology of the 37 00:01:48,130 --> 00:01:46,040 sucker it can orient and the spherical 38 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:48,140 muscle you see in the middle when 39 00:01:53,740 --> 00:01:51,740 contracted will make will activate the 40 00:01:57,219 --> 00:01:53,750 adhesion mechanism if the proper seal is 41 00:02:00,399 --> 00:01:57,229 made this is what the innervation of the 42 00:02:01,929 --> 00:02:00,409 sucker looks like on the face of the 43 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:01,939 sucker disk is where you'll have 44 00:02:12,190 --> 00:02:05,420 mechanical receptors those are dedicated 45 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:12,200 to processing the shape of the substrate 46 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:15,200 that's attached to him as well as assess 47 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:17,049 the integrity of the adhesion mechanism 48 00:02:21,429 --> 00:02:20,150 along the outer rim where it's exposed 49 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:21,439 to the most number of dissolved 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:23,800 chemicals is naturally the Kimura 51 00:02:28,980 --> 00:02:26,770 system there are tens of thousands of 52 00:02:31,410 --> 00:02:28,990 both chemical and mechanical receptors 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:31,420 in each sucker to put that into 54 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:33,370 perspective each one of your fingertips 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:35,940 has a few hundred mechanical receptors 56 00:02:40,950 --> 00:02:39,610 so it's a lot of information that these 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:40,960 suckers are processing and the way 58 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:43,330 they're able to do that is that each one 59 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:46,000 has been delegated a cluster of neurons 60 00:02:50,870 --> 00:02:48,160 that serves as a local sensory and motor 61 00:02:56,220 --> 00:02:50,880 computation Center called a ganglion 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:56,230 these ganglia are among a chain that 63 00:03:01,470 --> 00:02:58,570 projects toward the brain so the brain 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:01,480 is where the eight arms converged and at 65 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:03,850 the base of each arm there is a neural 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:05,320 ring that serves to unite them that 67 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:07,570 serves as a means by which the arms can 68 00:03:12,950 --> 00:03:08,710 communicate with each other without 69 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:14,780 what you see here is a cross-section 70 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:21,160 with the neurons stained in black like I 71 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:22,780 said each sucker has its own ganglion 72 00:03:26,460 --> 00:03:24,490 each one of those ganglia wallet 73 00:03:28,410 --> 00:03:26,470 projects to each sucker shares 74 00:03:29,729 --> 00:03:28,420 information likewise with the arm 75 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:29,739 musculature surrounding it 76 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:32,680 so each ganglia processes the 77 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:34,390 information from the local sucker from 78 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:36,340 local musculature and as well controls 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:38,170 that segment of the musculature and the 80 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:40,570 sucker itself most of this information 81 00:03:44,670 --> 00:03:43,090 doesn't make it to the brain at all the 82 00:03:46,830 --> 00:03:44,680 brain receives but a very highly 83 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:46,840 abstracted sense of what's going on out 84 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:49,000 in the world and it will respond with a 85 00:03:54,180 --> 00:03:51,280 very generalized motor plan that will 86 00:04:01,310 --> 00:03:54,190 get specified based on this very densely 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:01,320 innervated sensory field here is a 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:03,370 simplified schematic of the cross 89 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:07,930 section of the arm in a way the octopus 90 00:04:11,729 --> 00:04:09,610 has sent its mind down to the 91 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:11,739 environment to meet halfway so it's a 92 00:04:17,039 --> 00:04:13,660 very different way of thinking about the 93 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:17,049 world so what we're doing is we're using 94 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:19,720 behavioral tracking to characterize how 95 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:21,160 the suckers and the arms are 96 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:23,110 collectively acquiring integrating and 97 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:24,340 responding to information in the 98 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:27,310 environment which I'm going to walk you 99 00:04:33,570 --> 00:04:30,250 guys through right now so from the level 100 00:04:37,070 --> 00:04:33,580 of the suckers what we can do is provide 101 00:04:39,529 --> 00:04:37,080 an arm with a simple puzzle or 102 00:04:42,830 --> 00:04:39,539 by which it's able to extract some food 103 00:04:50,809 --> 00:04:42,840 and we can simply characterize the 104 00:04:52,670 --> 00:04:50,819 strategies that's using to do this what 105 00:04:56,779 --> 00:04:52,680 becomes immediately apparent to us is 106 00:04:59,149 --> 00:04:56,789 that once a sucker makes contact with a 107 00:05:02,779 --> 00:04:59,159 stimulus it immediately recruits its 108 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:02,789 immediate neighbor to joining it what 109 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:05,280 you see here is the segment's lighting 110 00:05:08,779 --> 00:05:07,409 up proportionately to their angular 111 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:08,789 speed during the course of this behavior 112 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:12,870 so this is consistent with research that 113 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:15,930 was done before me and what is showing 114 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:18,270 us is that once the sucker makes contact 115 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:19,800 with the stimulus it is recruiting the 116 00:05:24,409 --> 00:05:22,440 next sucker over to bend it toward the 117 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:24,419 source of that stimulus once it makes 118 00:05:28,219 --> 00:05:25,889 contact with that stimulus it will do 119 00:05:30,559 --> 00:05:28,229 the same thing for the next sucker until 120 00:05:34,309 --> 00:05:30,569 it propagates the signal down the length 121 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:34,319 of the arm and again the information 122 00:05:39,860 --> 00:05:36,300 acquired from the stimulus is highly 123 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:39,870 abstracted on its way to the brain this 124 00:05:43,339 --> 00:05:41,430 dot is highlighting the different parts 125 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:43,349 of the arm or the different segments and 126 00:05:48,740 --> 00:05:45,930 it's showing based on color coordination 127 00:05:50,570 --> 00:05:48,750 how the other segments are correlated 128 00:05:52,459 --> 00:05:50,580 with that one in terms of its angular 129 00:05:56,209 --> 00:05:52,469 speed what becomes apparent is that 130 00:05:57,589 --> 00:05:56,219 there is accordingly this symmetry 131 00:06:01,809 --> 00:05:57,599 around the point of original point of 132 00:06:04,159 --> 00:06:01,819 contact showing both distal and proximal 133 00:06:06,649 --> 00:06:04,169 recruitment of suckers and toward the 134 00:06:10,189 --> 00:06:06,659 tip of the arm where the arm is actually 135 00:06:11,809 --> 00:06:10,199 wrapping around the stimulus what you 136 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:11,819 see here is how the strategy actually 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:14,639 changed over time we recognized that 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:16,770 there was two strategies that the arm 139 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:20,090 was mainly using one was really the arm 140 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:23,550 feeling around in the water column and 141 00:06:28,369 --> 00:06:26,490 the other one as a direct consequence of 142 00:06:29,629 --> 00:06:28,379 the mechanism I just described to you go 143 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:29,639 straight for the wall and so it's 144 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:31,680 following the wall like you might amaze 145 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:33,060 if you wanted to get out of it 146 00:06:39,409 --> 00:06:37,409 interestingly enough the highlighted 147 00:06:42,709 --> 00:06:39,419 images are when there actually is no 148 00:06:44,809 --> 00:06:42,719 food in the box and what we started to 149 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:44,819 notice was that while following was 150 00:06:49,129 --> 00:06:46,639 overwhelmingly preferred in these cases 151 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:49,139 so in lack of chemical information in 152 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:49,440 other 153 00:06:54,530 --> 00:06:53,190 words for the next task we made it a 154 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:54,540 little bit more interesting by added a 155 00:06:58,670 --> 00:06:57,060 texture on one side by the way you're 156 00:07:01,390 --> 00:06:58,680 looking at this sideways but I couldn't 157 00:07:09,310 --> 00:07:01,400 bear to show you guys a vertical video 158 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:09,320 so this showed a very similar pattern 159 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:11,970 but it was particularly strong in the 160 00:07:18,260 --> 00:07:14,610 direction of the texture itself as you 161 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:18,270 can see so what was the arm doing during 162 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:20,610 this time it was literally just feeling 163 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:26,190 up the texture so what it what seems to 164 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:27,780 be the case is that the arm uses the 165 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:29,730 chemical and mechanical composition of 166 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:31,440 the environment as a framework upon 167 00:07:37,850 --> 00:07:35,370 which to behave the brain doesn't need 168 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:37,860 to choose where the arm bends that's the 169 00:07:45,260 --> 00:07:43,170 environment doing that this is probably 170 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,270 an intrinsic property of the soft bodied 171 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:47,520 intelligence it's using the environment 172 00:07:51,530 --> 00:07:49,520 as a computational resource and 173 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:51,540 mechanical novelty is a particularly 174 00:07:59,680 --> 00:07:53,460 strong reference by which is able to do 175 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:02,030 drawback of this different kind of 176 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:03,419 intelligence is that sometimes there's 177 00:08:11,330 --> 00:08:05,010 not always a consensus in the arm will 178 00:08:12,770 --> 00:08:11,340 play tug-of-war with itself but there 179 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:12,780 are drawbacks to our kind of 180 00:08:17,710 --> 00:08:14,490 intelligence too but that's going to be 181 00:08:23,060 --> 00:08:21,080 all right let's reorient ourselves so 182 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:23,070 what this mechanism allows it to do is 183 00:08:27,590 --> 00:08:25,860 it maximizes both the amount of control 184 00:08:29,659 --> 00:08:27,600 that the arm has over a given stimulus 185 00:08:31,610 --> 00:08:29,669 as well as the amount of increment 186 00:08:33,260 --> 00:08:31,620 information gathered from that stimulus 187 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:33,270 so this is particularly a particularly 188 00:08:38,329 --> 00:08:36,030 important time for a pert particularly 189 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:38,339 interesting stimuli as well as stimuli 190 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:40,919 that might be struggling for its life so 191 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:42,150 if you ever feel an octopus grabbing on 192 00:08:48,740 --> 00:08:47,430 to you don't struggle so what's actually 193 00:08:50,390 --> 00:08:48,750 happening at the system's level and this 194 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:50,400 is happening well when one sucker grabs 195 00:08:55,490 --> 00:08:52,800 on to an object it sends a signal to the 196 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:55,500 brain again a very abstracted signal but 197 00:09:00,110 --> 00:08:57,360 then as a next sucker over also gains 198 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:00,120 access to that signal or stimulus that 199 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:01,950 signal is going to be a lot stronger 200 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:04,170 until it reaches a certain threshold at 201 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:06,120 which point the brain is recruited the 202 00:09:11,210 --> 00:09:09,090 brain is the node by which the arms vie 203 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:11,220 for control over the others and a 204 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:15,090 winner-take-all fashion at that point 205 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:17,550 the brain will update the motive 206 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:19,800 strategy of the arms and again that 207 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:22,050 information that is in the peripheral 208 00:09:27,020 --> 00:09:24,210 nervous system will be used to specify 209 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:27,030 that information or specify that motor 210 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:36,260 so we can track this as well and and the 211 00:09:39,020 --> 00:09:37,680 way we're able to do this is by looking 212 00:09:42,110 --> 00:09:39,030 at synchronous versus asynchronous 213 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:42,120 movement in the arms because what 214 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:44,010 synchronous movement will tell us is 215 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:46,260 that it's not the arms really doing this 216 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:48,210 it's that the brain is intervening to be 217 00:10:00,460 --> 00:09:49,680 able to update the motor plan of the 218 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:03,160 this broad motor plan generated from the 219 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:06,670 brain can be very dramatic in this case 220 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:09,170 you can see how all the arms have been 221 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:14,360 told to reach at the same time and again 222 00:10:18,009 --> 00:10:16,370 it's the information that never makes it 223 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:18,019 to the brain at all that is being used 224 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:20,120 to locally modify that behavior to fit 225 00:10:32,139 --> 00:10:24,079 the conditions at that time and we can 226 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:32,149 track that too for now so we are also 227 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:33,860 seeing this other kind of recruitment 228 00:10:35,829 --> 00:10:35,510 strategy I've talked about sucker to 229 00:10:39,550 --> 00:10:35,839 sucker 230 00:10:41,079 --> 00:10:39,560 I've talked about armed brain we can see 231 00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:41,089 that the arm will actually create its 232 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:43,279 neighbors but this happens a lot more 233 00:10:47,259 --> 00:10:44,870 turbulent environments because obviously 234 00:10:48,850 --> 00:10:47,269 the arms from all sides are now getting 235 00:10:50,590 --> 00:10:48,860 a lot more information it's not a simple 236 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:50,600 just like one object one behavior kind 237 00:10:57,930 --> 00:10:54,800 of task so you saw it there you can see 238 00:11:00,280 --> 00:10:57,940 it again here and it's not hard to watch 239 00:11:05,439 --> 00:11:00,290 I've had them described to me as living 240 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:05,449 lava lamps okay so what do we think is 241 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:09,380 happening here well through the ganglia 242 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:11,390 so a separate pathway and then through 243 00:11:14,769 --> 00:11:13,279 the ring which is called the inter 244 00:11:17,889 --> 00:11:14,779 brachial commissure which is a bit of a 245 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:17,899 mouthful a signal will be sent to the 246 00:11:21,460 --> 00:11:19,490 neighboring arms those arms will 247 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:21,470 actually join the one that sent the 248 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:23,920 signal to begin with and then now the 249 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:26,000 representation of that stimulus now 250 00:11:29,829 --> 00:11:27,920 being handled by three arms will have 251 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:29,839 the maximized amount of representation 252 00:11:39,550 --> 00:11:32,089 and the narrow system and that will 253 00:11:42,430 --> 00:11:39,560 recruit the brain so characterizing 254 00:11:44,050 --> 00:11:42,440 these strategies these recruitment 255 00:11:47,199 --> 00:11:44,060 strategies sucker to sucker arm to arm 256 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:47,209 and arm to brain will give us a sense 257 00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:49,250 for how the suckers and arms are 258 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:51,529 collectively acquiring integrating and 259 00:11:55,090 --> 00:11:52,760 responding to information in the 260 00:12:00,890 --> 00:11:55,100 environment and to what extent the brain 261 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:04,400 our methods starting with 262 00:12:08,180 --> 00:12:05,700 two-dimensional tracking have become 263 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:08,190 more sophisticated now we move into 264 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:12,960 three-dimensional tracking now for the 265 00:12:16,579 --> 00:12:15,000 first time ever we can completely 266 00:12:19,010 --> 00:12:16,589 characterize the movement patterns of 267 00:12:21,769 --> 00:12:19,020 the octopus and its arms and all their 268 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:21,779 infinite degrees of freedom allowing us 269 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:23,850 to characterize the strategies that the 270 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:26,580 octopus is using to coordinate its 271 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:35,970 distributed mind characterizing the 272 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:37,380 computational strategies of these 273 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:40,050 alternative models of intelligence are 274 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:42,930 using will give us a perspective on the 275 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:46,380 forms of intelligence we can expect from 276 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:55,529 worlds beyond our own so this was 277 00:12:59,570 --> 00:12:57,120 obviously a team effort I can possibly 278 00:13:02,000 --> 00:12:59,580 do this alone 279 00:13:04,940 --> 00:13:02,010 so I'd like to thank my research 280 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:04,950 assistants everyone in my lab I'd like 281 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:06,630 to thank the University of Washington 282 00:13:10,070 --> 00:13:07,920 Institute for Near Engineering who has 283 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:10,080 funded mean is currently funding to my 284 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:11,430 research assistants Friday Harbor 285 00:13:13,970 --> 00:13:12,810 laboratories which is where I'm 286 00:13:16,130 --> 00:13:13,980 currently doing my research for the 287 00:13:18,019 --> 00:13:16,140 summer and of course University of 288 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:18,029 Washington master biology program if it 289 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:19,529 weren't for them I wouldn't be here at 290 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:19,770 all 291 00:13:24,620 --> 00:13:22,970 [Applause] 292 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:24,630 [Music] 293 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:28,890 [Applause] 294 00:13:37,410 --> 00:13:30,520 Thank You Domini 295 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:37,420 do we have any questions I didn't get to 296 00:13:41,850 --> 00:13:40,360 comment on it so uh you know when you 297 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:41,860 read anthropological literature that a 298 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:43,990 lot of explanations for why we have such 299 00:13:47,490 --> 00:13:45,370 a big brains you know the expensive 300 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:47,500 tissue hypothesis or sexual selection 301 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:50,320 and in I'm wondering in the octopus 302 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:53,380 community what hypotheses have been put 303 00:13:58,950 --> 00:13:55,420 forward as to explain why that octopus 304 00:14:01,140 --> 00:13:58,960 has such a big brain so I'm gonna repeat 305 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:01,150 the question just to contextualise it so 306 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,010 what did select for the octopus's brain 307 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:05,440 as opposed to like our brain right it's 308 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:07,510 or as opposed to other invertebrate 309 00:14:09,210 --> 00:14:08,890 brains that aren't as big as octopus 310 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:09,220 brains 311 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:12,730 ah yes okay so that's a really relevant 312 00:14:15,540 --> 00:14:13,720 question and we don't have all the 313 00:14:17,610 --> 00:14:15,550 answers we weren't there during their 314 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:17,620 evolution nor were we here for our 315 00:14:23,130 --> 00:14:21,130 evolution and our intelligence was 316 00:14:25,710 --> 00:14:23,140 selected by our environment we don't 317 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:25,720 have a generalized intelligence we have 318 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:28,240 a repurposed intelligence that seems 319 00:14:34,170 --> 00:14:30,400 more generalized than what it was 320 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:34,180 probably used best for at the time if I 321 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:36,990 were to speculate the octopus probably 322 00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:40,390 had extracted foraging as its most 323 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:43,060 overwhelmingly selective pressure so it 324 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:46,930 had to find and extract food and so 325 00:14:50,490 --> 00:14:48,760 that's why you get this while following 326 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:50,500 this is why you get this preference for 327 00:14:56,070 --> 00:14:53,290 novelty for instance the arms are 328 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:56,080 sampling and even with the brain removed 329 00:15:01,230 --> 00:14:58,530 or even with the arm removed this 330 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:01,240 exploration strategy that you guys saw 331 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:03,610 in front of you happens so it is 332 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:06,250 embedded within the nervous system of 333 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:07,750 the arms and it will activate even 334 00:15:14,670 --> 00:15:10,300 without the brain at all but it's 335 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:14,680 important because we have with us the 336 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:16,570 consequences of the Selective pressure 337 00:15:20,570 --> 00:15:18,550 for our intelligence as do they and as 338 00:15:23,190 --> 00:15:20,580 well whatever evolves to intelligence 339 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:23,200 anywhere out there in the universe is 340 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:26,440 that if your answer there are lots of 341 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:28,120 other vertebrates who also have that 342 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:30,040 living strategy whose brains are much 343 00:15:36,330 --> 00:15:33,750 smaller than the octopus that's true 344 00:15:39,349 --> 00:15:36,340 yeah but they figured it out in a very 345 00:15:42,829 --> 00:15:39,359 different way the size of the brain does 346 00:15:44,569 --> 00:15:42,839 I like to make the point that more 347 00:15:46,969 --> 00:15:44,579 important than the question how 348 00:15:48,559 --> 00:15:46,979 intelligent are they is how are they 349 00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:48,569 intelligent and we can ask that question 350 00:15:54,319 --> 00:15:52,350 to anything that's out there somewhat 351 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:54,329 related but one of the paradoxes well 352 00:15:57,409 --> 00:15:55,410 one of the things that's often presented 353 00:15:59,659 --> 00:15:57,419 as a paradox of octopus intelligence is 354 00:16:01,699 --> 00:15:59,669 the relatively short life span like some 355 00:16:03,619 --> 00:16:01,709 species only one or two years so I was 356 00:16:05,659 --> 00:16:03,629 wondering in terms of memory with this 357 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:05,669 distributed intelligence do you is there 358 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:08,399 evidence that the arms maintain some 359 00:16:12,139 --> 00:16:10,049 kind of memory of their environment and 360 00:16:14,179 --> 00:16:12,149 how long that persists and how that's 361 00:16:17,299 --> 00:16:14,189 transmitted if we can show that it would 362 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:17,309 change the field forever there a good 363 00:16:23,419 --> 00:16:22,049 question that was a lot of fun um 364 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:23,429 there's a lot of other cephalopods 365 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:25,649 besides octopi mm-hmm 366 00:16:28,909 --> 00:16:27,809 how similar are different are they given 367 00:16:32,419 --> 00:16:28,919 that they have different completely 368 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:32,429 different life styles yeah so they're 369 00:16:36,619 --> 00:16:34,769 yeah their mode of lifestyle is very 370 00:16:38,479 --> 00:16:36,629 different as you mentioned in terms of 371 00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:38,489 their neural Anatomy what you'll get is 372 00:16:44,599 --> 00:16:43,079 that the the peripheral nervous system 373 00:16:46,489 --> 00:16:44,609 for the squid cuttlefish is not as 374 00:16:48,019 --> 00:16:46,499 distributed as that for the octopus but 375 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:48,029 the brain itself is more distributed 376 00:16:52,309 --> 00:16:49,889 which is interesting in the case of 377 00:16:54,139 --> 00:16:52,319 squid you'll actually have more 378 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:54,149 sophisticated optic lobes which is 379 00:16:59,119 --> 00:16:56,689 something I did not talk about so it's 380 00:17:01,039 --> 00:16:59,129 supposedly suggesting that the eyes are 381 00:17:02,329 --> 00:17:01,049 more sophisticated than that of the 382 00:17:04,399 --> 00:17:02,339 octopus which is interesting because the 383 00:17:06,649 --> 00:17:04,409 octopus during the day is primarily a 384 00:17:07,850 --> 00:17:06,659 visual hunter and this probably has 385 00:17:09,049 --> 00:17:07,860 something to do with the squids pelagic 386 00:17:10,669 --> 00:17:09,059 lifestyle so they live in the water 387 00:17:17,829 --> 00:17:10,679 column they probably need to see farther